people who really govern us now men with
the European
Union yeah um you said Britain will gain
a bit of confidence if we leave the
European Union do you think that would
be enough to counteract a massive
uncertainty surrounding a Le because no
one actually knows what the trade bills
will negotiate or may not be able to
negotiate look like because the Le
campaign looks at one model you know
says that's not right moves on to
another no one has any idea what this
could look like well I've tried to paint
a picture in Broad brush terms it's all
I can do in time available to me now uh
of what it would look like it would be
us continuing to trade with the member
states of the European Union if it
continued to exist and trading with the
rest of the world on a freely negotiated
fair trade basis which we're not allowed
to do at the moment we we cannot
conclude uh a trade agreement with India
for example only the European Union can
do that but we can negotiate our own
with India or with any of the other
Rising bricks economies and we will do
and the one thing we won't get is ttip
the transatlantic trade and investment
partnership which is an existential
threat to everything that we hold dear
in this country or at least the majority
of us do which is being negotiated in
secret between the EU and the US
and which would be an unmitigated
disaster for us and of course the Tories
Johnson Gove they could maybe try and
sign a ttip themselves but I predict you
very confidently I bet my house on it
that they would not be able to persuade
the British people that we should sign
the
ttip and if they did they would lose the
next election largely on it you'll have
spotted the in my ey answer I'm talking
a lot about democracy because I believe
in it and I didn't deal with the young
man's point on the back British
democracy is very very far from
perfect it's absurd that we have a
hereditary monarchy happy birthday
man it's absurd that Prince Charles will
become our head of state even though
he's as thick as two
planks and the idea of a hereditary
brain surgeon
is clearly as Preposterous as having a
hereditary head of state it's true that
an unelected House of Lords is a stain
on our democracy and needs to be
abolished all of that is true but we've
got far more democracy in Britain than
we have in the European Union that's my
point we have chance probably for one
more possibly two questions Mr Mitchell
you have your hand up yeah I just wanted
it
British government or just an English
one I don't as I told you at the
beginning I fought the Scottish
referendum in
2014 and I've absolutely accurately
predicted the outcome
5545 so listen to me now that this
outcome is going to be of the same order
maybe a point
less um the Scottish people are quite
canny with money that's why I'll be
seeing your teacher afterwards to get my
petrol money for the drive
here we're quite good with money and we
know that an independence project
predicated on oil at
$113 a barel when it's only just reached
$50 a barrel doesn't add up uh so if
there was another referendum and there's
no legal right to one
and the parties all were very clear that
this would be the last referendum in a
generation well even in these rapidly
moving times a generation is not uh two
or three years uh but if there were to
be a referendum I'm confident that the
result would be the same and by the way
look out for this point that I'm also
predicting to you the result on
membership of the EU in Scotland will be
very much closer than you you would
think if you just listened to the
political class uh of uh of political
leaders who all pretend that Scotland's
in love with the EU we're just about to
find out that that's not actually true
so I don't believe that Britain will
break up I'll fight uh to avoid it uh
but of course the Scottish people have a
right to Independence if they choose it
and uh I hope that they don't and I
don't believe that they will
thank you very much unfortunately I'm
going to have to leave it there um I'm
going to hand over to Charlie in a
second to give a vote of thanks but uh
this is one of a number of EU referendum
events that are happening here at
Merchant Taylor's it'd be great if we
can get similar numbers along tomorrow
afternoon to see Peter Lily also talk uh
in sport of leaving uh the EU and on
Thursday we obviously have a an um
Merchant Taylor's referendum we also
have David gork uh coming in to talk in
support of remaining in the EU and that
will be at lunchtime actually in my
classroom that's EP 52b uh so lots of EU
referendum events coming up over the
next week and of course the the actual
referendum date is Thursday the 23rd so
uh Charlie if you like to take on behalf
of all of us like you
very you
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